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	<title>Comments on: John 12 (NIV)</title>
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		<title>By: mhoward</title>
		<link>http://findinggrace.com/blog/2007/11/24/john-12/#comment-734</link>
		<dc:creator>mhoward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 13:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said Josh!  I think many Christians, (including myself), would share the same frustration.  
I can so totally invite anyone to my home for a meal.  Why do I find it so hard to invite someone to church?  
Today I am making a commitment to hold an invite card in each hand and like Chris Spradlin said, in one hand I will pray for God to show me someone I don't know to give the card to, and in the other someone I do know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said Josh!  I think many Christians, (including myself), would share the same frustration.<br />
I can so totally invite anyone to my home for a meal.  Why do I find it so hard to invite someone to church?<br />
Today I am making a commitment to hold an invite card in each hand and like Chris Spradlin said, in one hand I will pray for God to show me someone I don&#8217;t know to give the card to, and in the other someone I do know.</p>
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		<title>By: JP</title>
		<link>http://findinggrace.com/blog/2007/11/24/john-12/#comment-727</link>
		<dc:creator>JP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 21:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is frustrating when you realize that you don't speak out or invite people to church or talk about Christ like you're supposed to just because you wonder what people will say about you. :(  I am probably the worst person in the world at that, for that very reason.  The fear of men or the value you put on the opinion of other people is just as powerful now as it was in Jesus' time.  Just like this...

"But because of the Pharisees they would not confess their faith for fear they would be put out of the synagogue."

I mean, even Pontius Pilate didn't want to condemn Jesus like he did, but he was just afraid of the people and of how he'd look and of being unpopular.

What really makes it apparent to me is this: if you don't think heavy metal is the greatest kind of music, ever, and you don't think Iron Maiden is the best band of all time, and you just met me, this topic will probably come up within five minutes.  I am endlessly proselytizing (probably spelled taht wrong...) on behalf of the metal church and sharing what I find to be good heavy metal music with other people.  I have invested a lot of time in listening to the Priest, Maiden, Metallica, and Iced Earth discographies.  I can hum all the songs, all the solos, all the riffs, comment on them at length, and I am not at all bashful in saying that if you DON'T think Iron Maiden totally rules, then I think you're making a mistake.  Like I said, I can talk all day about this subject and I'm not afraid to bring it up.

But what's stupid is that I don't act the same way about the gospel, which is way more important than any music.  Yes, more important than IRON MAIDEN, that must be pretty important, huh?  

I have been made fun of and people give me a hard time about being a metalhead and people make fun of Priest and Maiden, but that doesn't deter me in the slightest.  But why don't I act the same way about the gospel?

That aggravates me to no end because I realize that huge shortcoming in myself.  Look at Peter in the months after Jesus' death and resurrection.  That guy was an instigator, an agitator, a loudmouth, absolutely the worst kind of disease to people who loved the status quo and wanted to maintain it.  He went on and on, in public, loudly, and he would not SHUT UP about the things he had seen and the God he knew.  He didn't care what people thought, he didn't care about being beaten for what he said, he paid *absolutely no attention to any worldly consequences* for running his mouth.  He just stepped up and shared what he knew, ignoring everything else.

I wish I was more like that.  If you know me you know I'm willing to do anything for a laugh and I really don't have much shame about making an idiot out of myself (which is good) so you might think this area would be the same way, but it isn't.  That is frustrating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is frustrating when you realize that you don&#8217;t speak out or invite people to church or talk about Christ like you&#8217;re supposed to just because you wonder what people will say about you. <img src='http://findinggrace.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />  I am probably the worst person in the world at that, for that very reason.  The fear of men or the value you put on the opinion of other people is just as powerful now as it was in Jesus&#8217; time.  Just like this&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;But because of the Pharisees they would not confess their faith for fear they would be put out of the synagogue.&#8221;</p>
<p>I mean, even Pontius Pilate didn&#8217;t want to condemn Jesus like he did, but he was just afraid of the people and of how he&#8217;d look and of being unpopular.</p>
<p>What really makes it apparent to me is this: if you don&#8217;t think heavy metal is the greatest kind of music, ever, and you don&#8217;t think Iron Maiden is the best band of all time, and you just met me, this topic will probably come up within five minutes.  I am endlessly proselytizing (probably spelled taht wrong&#8230;) on behalf of the metal church and sharing what I find to be good heavy metal music with other people.  I have invested a lot of time in listening to the Priest, Maiden, Metallica, and Iced Earth discographies.  I can hum all the songs, all the solos, all the riffs, comment on them at length, and I am not at all bashful in saying that if you DON&#8217;T think Iron Maiden totally rules, then I think you&#8217;re making a mistake.  Like I said, I can talk all day about this subject and I&#8217;m not afraid to bring it up.</p>
<p>But what&#8217;s stupid is that I don&#8217;t act the same way about the gospel, which is way more important than any music.  Yes, more important than IRON MAIDEN, that must be pretty important, huh?  </p>
<p>I have been made fun of and people give me a hard time about being a metalhead and people make fun of Priest and Maiden, but that doesn&#8217;t deter me in the slightest.  But why don&#8217;t I act the same way about the gospel?</p>
<p>That aggravates me to no end because I realize that huge shortcoming in myself.  Look at Peter in the months after Jesus&#8217; death and resurrection.  That guy was an instigator, an agitator, a loudmouth, absolutely the worst kind of disease to people who loved the status quo and wanted to maintain it.  He went on and on, in public, loudly, and he would not SHUT UP about the things he had seen and the God he knew.  He didn&#8217;t care what people thought, he didn&#8217;t care about being beaten for what he said, he paid *absolutely no attention to any worldly consequences* for running his mouth.  He just stepped up and shared what he knew, ignoring everything else.</p>
<p>I wish I was more like that.  If you know me you know I&#8217;m willing to do anything for a laugh and I really don&#8217;t have much shame about making an idiot out of myself (which is good) so you might think this area would be the same way, but it isn&#8217;t.  That is frustrating.</p>
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		<title>By: dave hensleigh</title>
		<link>http://findinggrace.com/blog/2007/11/24/john-12/#comment-722</link>
		<dc:creator>dave hensleigh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 14:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sunday Morning: I really value it when people comment. This past week it has been my good wife and I... and I like interacting with her in this way. And it would be cool to hear from others as well!

We know others are using this day by day. Lets hear from you. It will help you to clarify your thoughts. And it will be an encouragement to others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sunday Morning: I really value it when people comment. This past week it has been my good wife and I&#8230; and I like interacting with her in this way. And it would be cool to hear from others as well!</p>
<p>We know others are using this day by day. Lets hear from you. It will help you to clarify your thoughts. And it will be an encouragement to others.</p>
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		<title>By: dave hensleigh</title>
		<link>http://findinggrace.com/blog/2007/11/24/john-12/#comment-709</link>
		<dc:creator>dave hensleigh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 17:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm...what Debbie said about that deal with them wanting to kill Lazarus. I have noticed over the years that the very people who are LIVING for God and not just doing church catch the most heat from the rest of the church. 
Lately there has been a ton of criticism of Rick Warren for all the good he and his wife are doing with this aids crisis.
Weird.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm&#8230;what Debbie said about that deal with them wanting to kill Lazarus. I have noticed over the years that the very people who are LIVING for God and not just doing church catch the most heat from the rest of the church.<br />
Lately there has been a ton of criticism of Rick Warren for all the good he and his wife are doing with this aids crisis.<br />
Weird.</p>
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		<title>By: Debbie</title>
		<link>http://findinggrace.com/blog/2007/11/24/john-12/#comment-708</link>
		<dc:creator>Debbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 14:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"for they loved praise from men more than praise from God."  This phrase always catches me by surprise when I read this passage.  Some of the leaders believed in Jesus but wouldn't tell anyone because they didn't want to be put out of the social organization of their synagogue.  That can sound way too familiar!  Are there times I hold back my belief because I am too concerned about what humans will think of me if I tell them I follow Christ?  Can I identify times I think I would love men's praise more than praise from God?  Of course there are!  But the Holy Spirit in me can catch me at those times....and if I have trained myself to listen to the voice of my Shepherd, I will hear Him and follow Him.
   (It makes me smile in this passage that the Pharisees were thinking that they should kill Lazarus for being raised from the dead!  :-)  ).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;for they loved praise from men more than praise from God.&#8221;  This phrase always catches me by surprise when I read this passage.  Some of the leaders believed in Jesus but wouldn&#8217;t tell anyone because they didn&#8217;t want to be put out of the social organization of their synagogue.  That can sound way too familiar!  Are there times I hold back my belief because I am too concerned about what humans will think of me if I tell them I follow Christ?  Can I identify times I think I would love men&#8217;s praise more than praise from God?  Of course there are!  But the Holy Spirit in me can catch me at those times&#8230;.and if I have trained myself to listen to the voice of my Shepherd, I will hear Him and follow Him.<br />
   (It makes me smile in this passage that the Pharisees were thinking that they should kill Lazarus for being raised from the dead!  <img src='http://findinggrace.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  ).</p>
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